Was General Franco a Fascist? by Brian Bamford

JOE Bailey sends NV a quote from Paul Preston, historian: “If people are looking for a quick and easy insult to those on the right, then fascist, is your go-to term,” he says. “If you’re asking an academic political theorist what constitutes a fascist then you’d have to say Franco isn’t.”

Derek Pattison had asked the question 'Was Franco a Fascist?' and he drew attention to some similarities and differences: 'Franco did use forced labour, concentration camps, and mass executions and terror was a deliberate strategy used to pursue his goal of overthrowing the republican government and winning the war. He then established a military dictatorship, but I don't think he'd much time for fascism, the Falange or its leader, Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera.'

The historian, Sir Paul Preston, is an interesting personality to turn to for an answer to this question 'Was Franco a Fascist?'. The then Prof. Preston answer to the interviewer Rob Attar, was:

'If people are looking for a quick and easy insult to those on the right, then fascist, is your go-to term,” he says. “If you’re asking an academic political theorist what constitutes a fascist then you’d have to say Franco isn’t.'

And then Preston continued:

'But that’s not intended to let the Spanish dictator off the hook. “I caused quite a stir in Spain a few years ago when asked this question,” Preston recalled, “and I said Franco wasn’t a fascist … he was something much worse.

'What I meant by that is that the only absolutely indisputable fascist leader is Mussolini and the only indisputably fascist regime is Mussolini’s regime. And, there are so many ways in which Franco is different.'

'How, then, was Franco “much worse”? Preston argues that Franco was a “deeply conservative” man who, having previously served with the Spanish Army in North Africa, “had the mental furniture of a Spanish colonial officer”. This had seemingly imbued him with a shocking disregard for human life.'

Derek Pattison was questioning Stuart Christie's assumption that Franco was a 'Fascist' and I believe Derek is right to say General Franco didn't have much time for the Falange (the Spanish Fascist Party). In 1963, my boss pointed to a house where a local Fascist lived in Denia, Alicante, and told me that he'd been imprisoned for a time under Franco. What Sir Paul Preston now calls 'the mental furniture of a Spanish colonial office', Sr. Juan Paris, my boss, saw Franco as a solid army man who couldn't be swayed by the dodgy nature of party politicians. Later on in 1975, after Franco had died* my boss told me that he then regarded democracy as the best thing for Spain.

Juan was probably the best boss I've ever had and he looked after me and my family as best he could, but when I think on this, I'm put in mind of what Ignazio Silone said in 'School for Dictators' where he wrote on Fascist Italy about how folk flock to those in power and this was his advice:

'Don't be in such a hurry, I beg you. The poets and the monsignori, the generals, the ladies and their escorts will all come to you after you are in power. With some exceptions, they flock to success like flies to honey, or if you prefer, like rats to cheese. Democratic when there is a democratic government, they are naturally fascists under a fascist dictatorship and Communists under the hammer and sickle. The behaviour of the priests might surprise us, if the pagans hadn't already advised us that the winning cause has always pleased the gods. Christian theology later corroberated this interlectually, explaining that all authority comes from God. And as for the ladies, it's well known that Venus has always felt a particular attraction for Mars, the God of strength.'

This quote is probably a good explanation of the evolution of Franco's Spanish dictatorship, which was an authoritatian, regime rather than totalitarian as in Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia.

Sir Paul Preston himself also represents a good example how to get on in academia, he doesn't yet seem to have commented on the death of Stuart Christie, which is a little strange given that he was very keen to court Stuart, particularly in the early days, and Stuart told me he helped to get some anarchist publications into print in English. One of Preston's students 'Neil' told me that Preston made much of his association with Stuart in academic circles. When I once, some years ago, mentioned to Stuart about Prof. Preston's association with the International Brigade Memorial Trust, he told me that 'it was his bread and butter'..

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* Officially, Franco died a few minutes after midnight on 20 November 1975 from heart failure, at the age of 82 – on the same date as the death of José Antonio Primo de Rivera, the founder of the Falange, in 1936. Historian Ricardo de la Cierva claimed that he had been told around 6 pm on 19 November that Franco had already died.[171] Juan Carlos was proclaimed King two days later.

Why We Should Be China Centric

by Les May

WRITING on the Conservative Home blog Damian Green MP has said ‘The World Health Organisation, as the Coronavirus crisis has developed, has seemed to be completely indulgent towards the Chinese authorities while being ever-ready (as they should be) to criticise other governments, and that the Chinese authorities were ‘dilatory in informing the WHO about the outbreak’.

https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2020/03/damian-green-coronavirus-huawei-and-what-to-do-about-china-in-the-long-term.html

Green’s claims seem to be written more from prejudice than a quest for accuracy. This is what the Al Jazeera news channel has to say.

‘On December 31 last year, China alerted the WHO to several cases of unusual pneumonia in Wuhan, a city of 11 million people.  The virus was unknown.’

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/timeline-china-coronavirus-spread-200126061554884.html

And the WHO tends to confirm this.

https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19

The full genetic sequence of the new virus, essential for the development of a test for infection by the virus, was released on 5 January 2020 based on a sample swab taken from a patient in December 2018 (probably 26 December)

You will note that at that time it was referred to as the ‘Wuhan seafood market pneumonia virus’ which is unsurprising as it was previously and unknown virus.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947.2

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/06/health/china-pneumonia-intl-hnk/index.html

This points to doctors and researchers in China being initially mystified by the new illness and working to find out more about it, rather than to ‘dilatoriness’.  As for the WHO being ‘indulgent’ to China I’m not sure what Green has in mind.

Green of course is not the only politician to blame China for the ongoing pandemic, Donald Trump initially adopted a similar stance but now seems to have chosen to direct his ire at the WHO for ‘Calling it wrong’, which is a bit rich coming from a man who takes no notice of anyone who actually knows what they are talking about.

I take a different view. For 76 days after 23 January China conducted a massive experiment on its own population at no cost to us or the rest of the world.  To tackle the Covid19 pandemic it introduced what has come to be known as a ‘lockdown’ instructing the residents of Wuhan not to leave their homes. As this seemed to be effective in reducing the infection rate other countries introduced similar measures. Having reduced the number of person to person transmission of the virus to a very low level, China is now conducting a second experiment by a phased lifting the restrictions on the population, again at no cost to us or anyone else in the world.  They are experimenting with one possible ‘Exit Strategy’. We should be watching what is happening in China in the next few weeks very carefully to see if it works.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/07/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-lockdown-lifted-intl-hnk/index.html

Thankfully we have not emulated China’s methods of imposing a 76 day lockdown.  But there is the dilemma.  The more complete the lockdown the more effective at reducing the infection rate it will be and the shorter the time it will be necessary for it to be in place.  China is totalitarian and coercive, we are a democracy, and work by persuasion and consent. If we want to prove that our system is superior we’ve got to accept social distancing and no unnecessary journeys out of the house.  The more we flout these rules the less effective the lockdown will be and the longer it will have to last to achieve the desired result.

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