Showing posts with label TBA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TBA. Show all posts

Saturday, 1 April 2017

Lets all hope Norman was right?


by Andrew Wastling

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I remember well that gangs of kids from  Spotland and elsewhere  used to regularly , and in those seemingly endless  summer holidays almost daily, play on much of the land around the old Turner Brothers factory site.  It was I must be honest a brilliant space to 'doss around' on.  We could refight world war two in the old concrete bunkers near the old Ammunition factory further along in Healy Dell, become a tribe of lost Apaches still evading Custer, the Reservations & small pox blankets , or map out & explore the woods & abandoned railway lines of the 'Dell' at our leisure.  All we needed was a couple  of butties and a bottle of pop in a cheap canvas army surplus shoulder bag. Some readers may remember the amazing well constructed 'Tree House' and swing set back from the road?

Many local kids played there.  This was the days of three channels on TV and eking out a miserable existence on the proceeds of an exploitative daily paper round from cheerful but slightly tight fisted  proprietor of the long gone Spotland Bridge paper shop.  Though I did try unsuccessfully to sign the other paper lads  & lasses up into the Labour Party Young Socialists & unionise then for higher pay!  We remained locked in perpetual industrial conflict for much of 74-75 , like much of the rest of the country at the time.  The 'Bosses' sought to divide and rule with additional perks of Curly Wurly's  and Mars Bars to the most compliant so although I still maintain we held the high moral ground we lacked the necessary resolve, strike fund reserves  & industrial militancy to decisively win that particular battle in the class war.

Our second private enterprise venture of recycling 'Ben Shaws' bottles collected from miles around with home made go-carts at 'Alice's' on Willbutts Lane failed utterly to raise us from our humble working class origins.  Although Thatcher would have been proud of our aspirational private business venture I'm sure ?

The 'Tree House' swing was the best for miles around easily far superior to the lesser facility at Cop trod.  The 'Crag' near to Shaw field School too held its attractions -  especially when playing 'hooky' from school - although the then stinking blue-grey river with its snake like threads of grey fabric washing out of a locked concrete drain into the stream & river direct from the Turners site was I have to admit an acquired taste.

Away from the 'Tree House', along a stretch of the same river besides the well stocked vegetable allotments.  We found leaping into the refreshing depths of the 'Spod' from the concrete bridge crossing the river on the footpath leading uphill to Rooley Moor Road was by far and away the best free entertainment for council estate kids available for miles around in summer - especially the glorious summer of '76 !

If my memory serves me correctly I remember a slightly decrepit dumper truck regularly lumbering along through the newly planted saplings to dump skip loads of rubble and general junk into a pit that from time to time had soil bulldozed over it by way of landscaping.  Occasionally we'd spy men in white overalls conducting weird & wonderful tasks beyond our understanding with clipboards and with sticks and bits of white tape.  We christened them ' Martians' at the time and thought no more of it.  Although one of the more excitable younger kids did think it was a prelude to an alien invasion but he was a compulsive Doctor  Who fan so nobody paid him any mind.

Security was never a strong point at Turners, even then . Though we did get an official letter from Turners formally threatening  our gang to keep off the river bank- my first officially recorded  brush with authority - where we'd catch the odd small fish or newt, which perhaps with the benefit of hindsight thankfully we let go rather than keep!

It would be interesting for some research to be conducted with the participation  those 70's street kids to  see if any of them have any long term health issues that could be attributed to our toxic playground?  I know at least three of our gang have moved onto bigger and better things in Poland, Australia and the USA, but others remain contactable.  One of my close friends father worked for many years at Turners and passed away of an asbestos related disease.  His blue overalls and flat cap as well as his incredibly wide ranging intellect meant he was a fascinating and well known Rochdale character who could talk knowledgeably for hours at a time on a huge range of subjects from Edwin Waugh to John Pilger & Deeply Vale.

He's still much missed & unique individual.  A truly wonderful mentor & friend .He always treated me and his son as adults and had more books lining the walls of their terraced house on Rooley Moor road than you could find in the entirety of  Spotland Branch library.  Their Manchester brick terraced house had the added bonuses of having not only a brilliant & voluminous vinyl collection but a well stocked fall-out shelter in the cellar , with copies of both Protect & Survive but Protest & Survive along with  hand written signs saying:  'Zdravstvuyte tovarishch!'  or 'Hello Comrade!' in Russian Cyrillic text.  A wise post apocalyptic survival tool we all agreed at the time  given the dire state of local civil defence contingency plans  which had recently been vilified in the Ob for having immovable metal filing cabinets wedged in front of the door leading to Civil Defence  Regional HQ then located  in the Town Hall cellar !

My mate's dad Norman, always resolutely maintained that the 'truth would one day come out about what had gone on at Turners over the years', but it wouldn't be 'for many years when those responsible were long dead and buried'.  Such was extent of the cover up by local politicians & businessmen who had royally screwed up with the site and feared that truth and the real extent of the problem would finally out one day be dragged out into the cold light of day.

Lets all hope Norman was right ?

Thursday, 30 March 2017

Green Activist Mick Coat's Statement

 on the Rochdale Turner Brothers Asbestos Site:

I must apologise for my unavoidable absence; accordingly I have submitted this written report with regard to matters surrounding the TBA site and my concerns.  Clearly there are a number of issues that should be in the public domain.
Afterall it is us who are most affected by the problems of this highly contaminated site.

This is the question I put to Rochdale Township regarding the TBA site.
'Has the site survey on contamination been completed?  Are there any preliminary results and will these be shared with RMBC councillors and council officers?  Will these be shared with the Save Spodden Valley group?  What action do the owners intend to take to remove the illegally dumped rubbish on their site? What progress has been made in terms of prosecution by the Environment Agency?  What action has the council taken to address the public health threat posed by this rubbish to the residents of Rochdale?'
I recieved the following replies.
First, the survey has been completed this month.  Originally we were told it would be completed in 3 weeks in October.  However it took 4 to 5 months.
Why?

Secondly, I asked if preliminary results would be shared with councillors, council officers or experts from Save Spodden Valley?  The response was that the report would eventually be published at a later date. Presumably the answer to my question was 'no'.

Thirdly I asked about all the rubbish that had been dumped on the site by the lorry load.  No information was forthcoming about a prosecution by the Environment Agency, the response being that this was in the hands of the Environment Agency.
No comment was made with regard to the council's duty to protect public health.

I prefaced my question by saying that in the light of the council's wish to see 250 houses on site (Stragetic Housing Land Availability Assessment 2016) the problems of the site should be dealt with in a transparent and open way.
In addition I offered to take councillors and council officers round the site to show them my concerns. This was met with a stoney silence from the councillors.  Clearly not interested.

Subsequently Cllr Biant has ascerted that the rubbish is 'mainly inert'.
What does she mean by 'inert' – not dangerous, not disease ridden, not contaminated?  What tests have been done?  As this is private land what tests have the site owners undertaken, or have the council undertaken tests on behalf of the owners?  Can we have access to the results of these tests?
And most alarmingly,  MAINLY inert. I really do not think that mainly is good enough. Just a few germs, a little bit of asbestos?   Not good enough.

It seems that the phrase 'mainly inert' is more appropriately applied to councillors, not the rubbish on site.

Mick Coats
Rooley Moor Road

Thursday, 23 March 2017

Councillor Cecile Biant on Fly-Tipping




Rochdale Councillor Biant representing Spotland & Falign Ward!
FOLLOWING the report in Northern Voices on the Rochdale Township Committeee Meeting at the Riverside building in Rochdale town centre, one of the Labour councillors for Spotland & Falinge ward, Cecile Biante, sent the response below.  Spotand & Falinge ward is where Spodden Valey is situated. (Editor)
Hello Brian,
What a lot of nonsense! We already had a paper in front of us with the answers to the questions which the officer read out, and the ward councillors knew anyway. The Head of Public Protection had been on leave for 2 weeks, that is why Mick Coates did not get a specific response from Wendy Cocks, a fellow Councillor, as she wanted to check for any updates beforehand. We discuss TBA frequently informally.
Mick proclaimed that he is an expert, and I am familiar with his employment over many years, but he apparently failed to notice that the illegal tipping was mainly inert material which did not pose an immediate health risk. The Environment Agency are dealing with this, not the Council. Mick Coates has been sent the answers to his questions  which I would have thought he would have shared with you by now.
The Councillors are all positive, friendly, knowledgeable, relaxed and diligent. We always try to respond to emails which are brief, civil, genuine requests, but not to those who are hell bent on nastiness or self-indulgence. Life is too short for that.
Most of us have a great deal of common sense, wisdom and experience. We are neither sullen nor were we sitting stiffly.
Please send me a photograph of how you sit, as I am curious to know how it compares with the Councillors present last night.
With best wishes,
Cecile Biant