by Green Swiper
Editor: Some weeks ago we were given a report which suggested that the Tommy Robinson campaign may have been provided with funds from a pro-Israel lobby. We decided to take it down because we considered it may have been defamatory. We publish the comment below by Green Swiper because we believe in free expression, not because we support all of the sentiments expressed.
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THE 'I HATE TOMMY ROBINSON' bandwagon is groaning under the weight of self-righteous 'civic and faith leaders'. It is being pushed along by drivelling politicians and subservient social-media outlets. All of them have jumped on board to court public approval, curry favour and safeguard their own ratings. They seem to be saying: 'Look at us. We’re all on message. Come and join our feeding-frenzy, er, popular alliance.'
If those cringing sycophants carry on down that road, their wheels will come off and then they will be embarrassed. It’s another case of 'The Emperor’s New Clothes'. They are “posing in the altogether” and most onlookers will clearly see 'what’s what'. They claim to be against 'hate crime and hate speech etc', but they seem to think it’s alright to hate Robinson. That’s flagrant double standards and bullying. Isn’t it?
Robinson is a beacon of light. He is boldly leading the way out of the alien multicultural gloom of 21st century Britain. He actually represents the silent, invisible majority of British people: probably about 90%. It’s true. Some of those same British people wearily tried to express their anxieties by voting for BREXIT. Where did that get them?
Why don’t we try another test? We never had a vote on multiculturalism. We could ask people somewhat belatedly in a referendum: 'Would you like to replace your civilised British monoculture with multiple primitive foreign cultures?' Everybody knows what the answer would be. That’s why it will never be allowed to happen, and that’s why our so-called 'civic and faith leaders' are trying to snuff-out Robinson‘s candle.
Readers ought to watch the relevant Robinson videos. It’s all there on the Net. They will see him standing on a trailer talking to British people while dozens, if not hundreds, of masked Pakistanis are hurling missiles at them. A thin blue line of police officers are trying to hold back the demonstrators.
Why do Pakistanis think that they have the right to prevent a British man from talking to British people in Britain?
Britain is supposed to be democratic yet anybody like Robinson who has a different opinion from the smudged Conservative, Liberal, Labour coalition is denied a platform by the 'Thought Police' and the 'PC Brigade'. Our imposed 'civic and faith leaders' accuse him of being hateful, racist, intolerant, controversial and far-right. I say thanks, but no thanks for the implants. Please may we be allowed to make up our own minds?
Stop persecuting Robinson. Give him a platform. Let him speak.
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I doubt whether Greenswiper will have seen the documentary by the mixed race historian, David Olusoga, 'The Unwanted:The secret Windrush Files', which was screened on Monday 24 June 2019.
I fully agree with Tommy Robinson having a platform to air his views. However if Greenswiper and Tommy had done so they would have found the seeds of racism were watered and fertilised by politicians from Conservative and Labour after WW2 and are still being fed surreptitiously by politicians today.
John Wilkins
Fucking hell Brian, we always wonder how low you can go, then you open up this blog to an openly racist fascist-sympathiser. Whatever next?
The bar for calling someone a ‘fascist’ or a ‘racist’ is now so low that the terms are little more than terms of abuse used by people who cannot marshal a rational argument in defence of their opposition to something that someone has said or written which they dislike. It is clear that ‘Anonymous’ has no understanding of the true nature of Nazism which melded the two ideologies into a state sponsored terror.
Had Hitler confined himself to the verbal outpourings of the likes of Tommy Robinson or the writings of Greenswiper, he would hardly have merited a one line footnote in 20th century history. He didn’t and as a result between 11 and 17 million people were murdered if one includes all racially motivated German crimes, e.g. the killing of Jews, Gypsies, Soviet prisoners of war, Polish and Soviet civilians, plus the physical and mentally disabled, political prisoners, religious dissenters, and homosexuals.
Throwing around ‘fascist’ and ‘racist’ like some sort of verbal or literary confetti serves only to distract from the true horrors inflicted upon the world by the Nazis. I am sometimes tempted to wonder if it is only in a nation like ours which unlike most of Europe did not suffer occupation by the Nazis and has no memory of what it was like, that we are willing to indulge the people who feel they must signal the anti-racist sentiments to the rest of us by allowing them to get away with such sloppy language and ideas.
As the joint editor of this blog, I have no dealings with Greenswiper, nor do I know him, or deal with him. Nevertheless, I often wonder why it is that members of Mr. Bamford's fan club, always choose to hide behind anonymity and refuse to identify themselves when making a comment. Bamford chose to publish this contribution and and the anonymous comment, and I think on this occasion, he was right to do so.
People like Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson who dislike one another, claim to speak for the 'marginalised' - those working class people who it is said, feel ignored, unrepresented and left behind. This view is expressed in this article.
Many working class people abandoned Labour under Tony Blair - who is the real architect of Brexit - and started to vote UKIP or stopped voting altogether. They did so for a number of reasons: First, they felt that Labour had after 2004, let in too many immigrants from Eastern Europe, while other European countries had imposed a moratorium. Consequently, according to ONS, 80% of new jobs in this country, under 13 years of 'NEW Labour', were filled by immigrants from Eastern Europe. Second, Blair told people that there might be only an inch of difference between NEW Labour and the Tories, but that inch, was worth fighting for. Many disagreed and stopped voting Labour altogether. Third, Blair totally misunderstood the nature of British society, when he told the people "we are all middle class now", and talked about his 'Big Tent'. Since 1983, British Social Attitudes Surveys, have found that when people are asked what class they belong to, around 60% reply working class, irrespective of what their occupation is. Seemingly, some 47% of people in managerial positions, also identify as working-class.
BREXIT, Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, and Tommy Robinson, are all a symptom of people's angst. What their supporters seem to be reacting against is the barmy political correctness that tries to tell them what to think, what to say, and what is acceptable and not acceptable in a Liberal society and who can and cannot have a platform. They're sick to the back teeth of it and tired of having it shoved down their throats. What we're witnessing today, is a backlash against it.
John Wilkins writes:
'I doubt whether Greenswiper will have seen the documentary by the mixed race historian, David Olusoga, 'The Unwanted:The secret Windrush Files', which was screened on Monday 24 June 2019.'
I did not watch the documentary either. I do wonder why was it necessary to draw attention to the fact that the presenter is ‘mixed race’? Surely it isn’t to suggest that this makes him a more reliable or less reliable source, depending upon your point of view
Documents are not ‘facts’ to be accepted without question. They are the evidence that the historian uses to build and support a point of view. Their ‘meaning’ is an interpretation by the historian who will have brought his or her own experiences, prejudices, etc into play when making that judgement. In other words whatever was broadcast was one interpretation. Another historian might have reached a different conclusion. If you find this hard to swallow ask yourself whether you would unthinkingly accept David Irvine as a reliable source for the history of the Nazi period. I doubt it. A. J. P. Taylor’s interpretation of the proximate cause of the First World War was not shared by every other historian.
In 1964 someone I knew from school brought his Trinidadian girlfriend to see me. She painted such a wonderful picture of the place that I looked into the possibility of living there. When I looked at all the obstacles in my way I did not jump to the conclusion that racism was at work. What the authorities were concerned to ensure was that I would no become a financial burden on the state.
My daughter now lives in South Africa. She is a qualified and experienced nurse. I have helped her with getting the UK paperwork to demonstrate this. Each piece she submitted was not quite right, she always needed something else. Neither of us immediately denounced this as ‘racism’.
My son and my granddaughter have both been to Australia to visit another daughter. Both went on restricted visas. Racism? No. The country was just trying to control who was allowed to live there.
We are all believers in multiculturalism until we come across something in another culture we don’t like. Good luck to anyone who thinks they can stop ‘a nation of dog lovers’, as we Brits have been called, from being highly critical of the Indonesian cultural practice of fattening up and eating dogs, by yelling ‘racist’ at them. I doubt that there are many people who would not be critical of the Netsilingmiut Inuit cultural practice of ‘exposing’ female babies at birth or of the Yanomami cultural practice of extreme violence within and between groups.
If you are critical does that make you a ‘racist’?
ANONYMOUS WROTE: 'Brian, we always wonder how low you can go, then you open up this blog to an openly racist fascist-sympathiser. Whatever next?'
Wonderful stuff: I'm impressed by all the comments. I couldn't stop laughing at what anonymous said.
The comments of John Wilkins, Les May and Derek Pattison are worth reading again and again. I hope people do because their illusions surrounding this issue need to be shattered.
Let me first say that it is a pity that the Northern Voices Blog does not have an anti-racist or anti-fascist politics. The defence of Tommy Robinson, an out and out fascist and racist is a disgrace to any blog that seeks to advance the cause of the working class and those who are at the sharp end of life. Fascism and racism seeks to divide the working class by getting the poor to fight amongst themselves.
That is why Tommy Robinson, when he stood in the European elections had nothing to say about austerity, poverty, homelessness etc. His sole focus was on immigration and Muslims.
Robinson himself is a former member of the neo-Nazi BNP, founder of the anti-Muslim EDL and is now ploughing his own path to self-enrichment.
Greenswiper is heavy on mixed metaphors and a spray of adjectives and short on substance. Eg ‘If those cringing sycophants carry on down that road, their wheels will come off and then they will be embarrassed.’
Pure drivel with no content.
The little fascist Greenswipe tells us that Robinson or Yaxley-Lennon is ‘a beacon of light. He is boldly leading the way out of the alien multicultural gloom of 21st century Britain. He actually represents the silent, invisible majority of British people: probably about 90%.
‘Alien multicultural gloom’. Here you see the bigot and racist in all his glory. It may be gloomy for this poundshop bigot but not for most people. Whether it is food or music multi culturalism has triumphed over British marching bands! Or maybe what he means is that he doesn’t like mixing with Black people but doesn’t like to put it in those words.
Let’s just say as the grandchild of Jewish immigrants that this same racist crap was put out against Jews at the beginning of the 20th century. There were the same Greenswipes then complaining of being ‘flooded’ with aliens. They even passed an Aliens Act in 2005 to keep out Jewish refugees from Czarist Russia.
There is nothing new in the bigot Greenswipe and his lying rhetoric. Tommy Robinson represents about 90% of people does he? Strange that he got only 38,000 votes in the European parliament elections. I think that was 2.2%. Can’t imagine where the rest of the 88% went. To put it bluntly Greenswipe is speaking out of his arse.
Apparently ‘we’ never had a vote on multiculturalism. Well we never had a vote on capitalism and the free market either. Or on the rich 1% owning 50% of wealth. Can’t imaging why Greenswipe isn’t interested in those topics.
Britain is a multi-racial society (multi-culturalism is a consequence of living in an international world. You know things like Blues and Rock. There not much in the way of British music and British food is pretty boring too.
But its true we never had a vote on a multi-racial Britain. That’s because the people we colonised never had a vote on whether they should be part of the British Empire, because that is where British immigrants come from. Just as the people of Iraq and Afghanistan weren’t given a vote on whether we invaded them and destroyed their societies so it is only fair that we should pay the price of our war crimes.
Black and white people oppose Tommy Robinson for the same reason that 100,000 Jews and non-Jews prevented Oswald Moseley marching through Cable Street and the East End in October 1936. There is a long tradition of fighting fascism in Britain and if Tommy Robinson wishes to spread his racist poison, whilst enriching himself at the same time, then he must expect opposition. After all, the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for people of good will to do nothing.
And if Greenswipe doesn’t like that then tough.
Robinson combines ardent support for Israel with previous membership of Holocaust denial groups. And that too is no surprise.
Tony Greenstein
The journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown poses as an ‘anti-racist’ and an ‘anti-fascist’. In the Independent in 2009 she authored an article with the title ‘Spare Me the Tears Over the White Working Class’. It began with Yasmin pouring scorn on the ‘wretched’ self pity of the white working class who were ‘threatening to vote for fascists’. It went on sarcastically ‘… their culture is proud; they are noble. What they believe – however stupid or vicious – must be awesome. … Working class white men provoked race riots throughout the fifties and sixties; they kept the darkies out of pubs and clubs and work canteens’.
If NV had an anti-racist or anti-fascist politics it might encourage people with the same limited intellectual horizons as Yasmin to submit articles knowing that the editors try to uphold what George Orwell said; “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people things they do not want to hear.”.
In his comment Tony Greenstein proclaims that 'it is a pity that the Northern Voices Blog does not have an anti-racist or anti-fascist politics.'
Let's be clear, Northern Voices doesn't have a party-line or what might be called a politically correct platform.
But what does Mr. Greenstein really mean when he accuses Northern Voices of not having 'anti-racist or anti-fascist politics'?
What is 'fascism'? In 1944 George Orwell wrote:
'All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.'
If he is going to use such a swearword so liberally, I think Mr. Greenstein must define his meaning of the term 'Fascist'.
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